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Last night I got an email from YouTube saying that my video "Animator vs. Animation II (original)" was disabled due to a copyright complaint by Joe Lafond.

WHO THE F$#% IS JOE LAFOND????

This made me so angry. At first I thought that this Joe Lafond was mistaking me for one of the hundreds of people who reposted Animator vs. Animation and its sequels, trying to protect the original owner without knowing that I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER.

But the process for submitting copyright claims in YouTube is pretty elaborate and risky for the person submitting so I really wonder WHY this person actually sent this copyright notice.

IT DOESNT SAY ANY REASON FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, NOR DOES IT GIVE ME ANYTHING ABOUT JOE LAFOND EXCEPT HIS NAME.

So I can send a counter notification, but it's risky because what if Joe Lafond is the owner of the Firefox logo, or the avast! program, or AOL? If it turns out he actually made a valid claim, I could actually have my YouTube account terminated. The only other option they give is to contact the person directly but like I said, ALL THEY GIVE ME IS HIS NAME, not his youtube username, his email, nothing.

This is a big deal for me because this video was the only one getting over 1 million views. You can see how its disabled here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxM1cn…

All I want to do is find out WHO sent this copyright claim and WHY.

So, I find myself very stuck. Any advice would really help.

Alan

::: EDIT :::

I have found Joe Lafond, turns out YouTube does give me his email address. I emailed him, he said it was all a mistake, but didn't say anything about retracting his copyright claim. Fishy.
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J-Feather Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Student General Artist
It seems to be working now
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Obsidian-Fate Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
DasboSchitt, has the best work.
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Obsidian-Fate Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Get Yoyo to deal wif him. XD
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Charleston-and-Itchy Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
I'd say, send him death threats for removing your video. :evillaugh:
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GoneCrazy-BackIn5 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
[link] I may have found something. O_O
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La-gato-negro Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Email YouTube...
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:iconphotography-forever:
Photography-Forever Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
E-mail YouTube NOW!
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Athena4925 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Student General Artist
actually there is a series by a guy named animator vs animation 1-3. i have two of the videos on my faves if you son't believe me
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Exodyus Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I would discuss it with YouTube, seeing as you're the original creator of the Animation and should note than you do not claim to own any of those icons as they are to their respective ownership, etc...

You should also make note on your Youtube accounts and wherever else you have that hosted that you're not the original creator of the logos, etc. I can't imagine that some dumbass would do that though -- but dA is the home of retards and getting stuff removed because of express permissions.

So I can't say that it really surprises me.

Piss anyone off lately?
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Hyuuga-chi Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist
I searched joe laford on google and the first thing that popped out was an article about a dead man O_O
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Eliza-Earl Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
It might be because of tthe stick figure. Aparently Joe La Ford won an award for his video which had a diffrent kind of not really stick figure in it [link]
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Psiaura Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Quick search on internet? wikipedia? facebook? If it lists him as any sort of official, i'd just say post the vid again with a note in the description stating that you are the creator.
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Obsidian-Fate Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
sorry didn't mean like
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Obsidian-Fate Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Fuck dude that would suck. Kill him... WITH FIRE!!!!! XD
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cadaverlee Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student Artist
Try and see if you can contact him (or find him). Or go through the YouTube staff and see if they can help you with this.
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Flood09 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You could look him up. If he does actually own one of the logos you used then maybe you could just find a way to contact him and ask him if you could use the logo. Or maybe he has a video with the exact same title as yours? Hope this was helpful.
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Espio-Chameleon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
They should still give you an explanation though, it's only fair.
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Espio-Chameleon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
WOW, that really is strange and I can feel your pain. That is rather frustrating.

Maybe, what you can do is search to find the original owners of the logo's, put the copyrights in the description for your animation and try that?

I have a Youtube video about Danny Phantom and I put proper credit in the Video itself and the description, for owner of content, song, and so forth I haven't been banned yet.

but, I do hope you get it sorted out. I would be pissed if I was accused of Copyright infringement when it was my own work.
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OnigiriSeoul Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope you can get through this.
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mesoup27 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student General Artist
actually, I learned that on youtube there were alot of other original work that got a copyright complaint as well, so it's not just you. it's others as well
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llxEn1gMaxll Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
I was about to call him an extremely pathetic loser envious of your work but I don't want him to bribe the deviantART owner to delete my best picture for "copyright infringement". :icontearplz:
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AlienDee Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Oooww Tricky one, Joe lafond according to Google is a face in FortMcMurry and a bunch of random people from twitter, myspace etc....

That doesn't mean he isn't the designer of Firefox logo or AOL, Maybe you should slightly change them?

This really really sucks for you and If I put myself in your shoes I would e-mail yourtube and demand why its been banned? - freedom of speech and they should be able to tell you that.

Good luck and keep us updated with how it goes.
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ludabo98 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student General Artist
I think unless you made a lot of money with your video they can't copyright it for the firefox logo I think.
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Wabefuhon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
Your video on Newgrounds still stands.
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Wabefuhon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
Let other people investigate. Dasboschitt had his 9th Gmod idiot box taken down because of copywright. He uploaded it a month later. He's still on youtube. Do get with him about the issue.
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FuzzyScribbles Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe the person who did it is just being a jerk. I think if the owner of the firefox logo and stuff would be fine with you using the logos in the video. It's done all the time. It's frustrating that someone did that to your video Alan. Maybe it could have been on accident but who knows.
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Nobody-now Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
I don't get the law stuff, but i don't think the software company people can calim a copyright of something someone made with their software... especially since i don't think AvA violated anything...
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c-rose-artist Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Here is what I found [link] :/ Good luck with getting it back up without any problems <:D At least you'd still have one and three still up, but I guess three wouldn't make as much sense if someone didn't get to see two yet...
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Em-S5 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student Photographer
I found this on Youtube's help page...

[link]

Hope this helps ;)
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Roots-Love Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
I googled him and it said something about someone named that being "Mr. North Andover 2008":. There was also a youtube video about something of his:
[link]

Maybe someone mistook your work for his? ) = I'm sorry and I hope this helped, and I hope it gets solved.
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unforgottendoom Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
If Joe Lafond was part of anything, then his name would turn up in a Google or Wikipedia search. Go ahead and counter.
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Tessiie Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Oh dude, i wish i could help. ._.

I love those flash videos.

Good luck, though!
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Kwing95 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
Make a counter claim. If your account is terminated, then so be it. YouTube is becoming more and more totalitarian all the time, and if they're really that bad, then you shouldn't be a part of it, and neither should any of us, for that matter.
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Maan11j Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can't you contact Youtube and try to resolve it?
I don't think there should be any issue at all, in your side cause you did create it :/.
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RivenRoth740 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student General Artist
:iconfuuuuuplz:
damn... stupid troll guy.
i know what u are the owner, and that's why i followed u to dA.
this is WAR.
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TimeTravelingEchidna Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
I doubt it's someone who's pulling a claim based on use of icons in the animation.

It's probably just some douchebag who thinks he's being funny. My friend Emile had this exact thing happen to his videos last year, he came out stronger because of the counterclaim. Do it, bro.
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glowingqueen Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
This is some fucked up shit (excuse my French), you should definitely counter-sue.
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billybob884 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
If he wasn't just a troll, why didn't he send you a personal message before just reporting it? Counter that shit.
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XtremeStickAnimator Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
Never heard of him...
Really sounds like ppl abusing more copyright systems as a desperate cry for attention.

Wish I could be of assistance, but I really wouldn't know where to start... If this guy has any valid reason to claim copyright on your, dare I call it, masterpiece, there must be something to be found about him though.
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Sky-Lily Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If that person does happen to be the logo owner of AOL or Firefox or something, that's some real serious butthurt.

It's not like you're making a freaking profit over this video, hell, those logos probably show up in people's screenshots of things all the time.

Serious, serious butthurt.
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KassidiKeys Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012   Digital Artist
I'd also like to warn you- if you do file a counter claim and get this person's info, don't post it online. Outing a person's personal information is against terms of service for most sites (and definitely against youtube's tos -> [link]), and if he finds it and gives youtube a link they will definitely ban you over privacy/harassment concerns. I'd even be a bit wary of having it posted here seeing as how many people have been inclined to google it. Personally, I'd remove the name from the post, and hide comments that repeated it just in case.
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xXDekkaXx Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
Wow...
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J0mm Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
wow what the fuck, let the fury of stickpage and fluidanims smite this fool
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IsaRat Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cant you just get youtube to un-disable it?
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Teh-Jashinist Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
NORTH ANDOVER — Joseph Patrick Lafond died peacefully on Monday, May 16, 2011 at Massachusetts General Hospital surrounded by his family following a courageous battle with cancer.

...

I take it it's not this guy...
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xxDanger Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
This^ Accurate.
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ChinZaPep Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
nooo!!! I love Animator VS Animation! I think you did a GREAT job!!! I don't know what to tell you, though. Sorry! Good luck!!!
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KidenStormsoarer Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012
file the counter claim, even if they do own of those logo's (which i can't find him on google, and i think that i would if that were the case) you aren't making any claim of owning those. i'm fairly sure that this is covered under fair use law. at the very least, maybe you can find out WHY it got taken down.
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Created-By-Caz Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I really hope you get this sorted out - I would certainly want to know what the problem was, it might be something simple that could be put right easily.
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KassidiKeys Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012   Digital Artist
You're very welcome.
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